郭素沁：與中央缺乏協調
官員成夾心人
（巴生25日訊）雪州高級行政議員郭素沁指出，民聯政府與聯邦政府缺乏協調，官員成為“夾心人”，也為州內發展及投資計劃帶來無形障礙。
她說，民聯政府雖已取得雪州政權，但一些權限仍在聯邦政府手中，好像道路，有些屬于州政府管轄，有些又歸為聯邦政府屬下單位如公共工程局或大道公司權限。
服務不分彼此
郭素沁披露，外國投資者來雪州投資，同樣無可避免牽涉聯邦政府政策，因外國投資者來馬投資或引入相關領域的外籍專家來馬工作等事項，皆需經過聯邦政府，並非州政府掌權。
“投資者除了考量州內投資環境，州與聯邦政府之間的合作關係，也是他們考量因素。”
她說，州與聯邦政府必須加強協調，才能吸引投資者，可惜國陣政府自大選落敗后，迄今還未恢復元氣，更發生內亂及互相指責，連官員也一片混亂，新政策更令人難理解。
她舉例，學校不得邀請反對黨成員出席校內活動，但各校都向她要求撥款及出席活動，又怎么處理？
政策不明智
“旅遊部長拿督斯里阿查麗娜宣佈不會在民聯執政的5州屬提倡旅遊活動，也是其中一項不智政策，因浮羅交怡是各大型國際性活動中心點，也是前首相郭馬哈迪最愛的旅遊區。”
郭素沁強調，吉州也是民聯執政，浮羅交怡豈不也要被除名。
她指出，聯邦政府指示不明朗，讓官員們混淆，更不敢與民聯政府有更進一步合作及接觸，她本身就曾就外國投資者來馬投資事項，約見貿工部官員，但整個月都沒獲回應。
她披露，民聯今日會見首相商討各項合作事項，並會強調朝野政黨皆在為大馬人民服務，應不分彼此。
郭素沁：改善溝通管道
拉近政府與人民關係
郭素沁指出，他們將逐步改善州政府與人民溝通管道，拉近州政府與人民互動及瞭解。
她說，國陣執政期間，大家都對州政府沒興趣，現由民聯執政后，局勢已有所改變，大家開始關心州政府操作及內部結構。
她笑言，現今不僅人民心態改變，雪州朝野政黨領袖角色也風水輪流轉，因在新一季州議會座位安排，前大臣拿督斯里莫哈末基爾就坐在鄧章欽以前的位（州議會反對黨領袖位子），即大臣丹斯里卡立的正對面。
她披露，他們將為州政府網頁進行改革，把大臣所有致詞、文告及新聞，都會貼上州政府網站，讓人民更進一步瞭解大臣各項言論及州政府最新政策。
建立溝通橋樑
她強調，民聯取得雪州政權后，原本行政議員將有機會通過雪州電台，每週一小時的廣播時間，與人民空中交流，但此計劃最終還是泡湯。
“我們將通過其他方式，提升與人民溝通的橋樑。”
另外，她解釋，雪州政府首個行政中心設立在瓜雪，當中曾經過多番遷移，后在1978遷至莎阿南現址迄今。
她說，雪州政府組織表內，蘇丹為最高統治者，屬下則分為立法、行政及司法三權機構，另有皇室議會、大臣、行政議員、州秘書及公共行政委員會等。
她指出，雪州共有8個縣，屬下則有12個縣市議會，縣市議會主要以各項稅收為生，部分經濟盈余表現不錯，讓雪州政府目前尚不必煩惱經濟來源。
權限相等於州議會
行政議會重要決策單位
郭素沁指出，行政議會權限相等于州議會，是州內重要的決策單位。
她說，由雪州大臣親自主持的行政議會權限相當大，州內所有政府單位的各項計劃或申請，都得經過行政議會討論和通過，行政議會也有權決定州新政策。
“各政府單位將把報告提呈給行政議會，行政議會就根據報告評價作出討論及最后決定。”
她披露，他們每次開會所討論的事項都非常繁雜，會議報告厚達逾千張紙，一些瑣碎如土著與非土著房屋買賣交易，都得通過行政議會審核。
她指出，目前擁有2萬多個職位的雪州政府機構、地方政府及法定機構，仍有逾38.4%空缺待填補，大家有興趣皆可申請加入雪州政府大家庭。
她說，各個政府機構各有不同職責，如雪州經濟發展機構負責州內經濟發展及消除赤貧率、土地局負責土地事務等。
她披露，州行政議會討論后，會涉及聯邦政府的事項，呈上聯邦政府處理，如在今年8月把州內公路通訊網絡提升至90%水平目標。
另外，她也一一解釋州政府組織結構及權限範圍。
與2500人愉快交流
2議員演講精彩風趣
《中國報》與巴生福建會館聯辦“議長、行政議員做什么？”州政府結構大剖析講座會，讓超過2500民眾更進一步瞭解新議長和行政議員職權及州政府結構和操作。
大會主講人為雪州議長兼雙溪檳榔州議員鄧章欽，及雪州高級行政議員郭素沁，兩人風趣又精彩的演講，不僅讓眾人更深一層瞭解州政府結構和操作情況，也與民眾取得相當愉快的雙向交流。
吸引老中青
此場講座會是于昨晚7時30分，在巴生福建會館掀開序幕，不僅吸引巴生市民，許多遠方民眾慕名而來，包括適耕莊、吉隆坡及登嘉樓，其中不乏行動黨忠實支持者。
部分民眾早在傍晚6時陸續抵達會場，出席聽眾集合了老中青年齡層的人士，大家皆對此場講座深表贊賞，讓他們有機會與事務繁忙的鄧章欽和郭素沁作近距離交流。
會上，兩人以簡單易明的圖表及舉例方式，逐一向大家解釋州內多項熱門課題迷思，如議長職權、大型集中養豬區計劃、行政議會與州議會角色等。
談及備受矚目的大型集中養豬場風波，大家更大爆種種不為人知的真正內幕，也趁機調侃公開反對的人曾是“支持者”，雪州政權變天，他們也跟著“變臉”。
鄧章欽談及上任議長過程，更笑言新議長太勤力，讓職員難以適應，但他絕不會學習前議長1年只露面數次及只會蓋印章。
民眾除了自備紙筆記錄兩人談話重點，也在問答環節積極發問及提意見，可惜時間有限，兩人只能回答超過25道問題，但散會后，民眾仍捉緊機會與兩人交流，有者更要求合照。
從拒絕戴宋谷到次數最多
章欽自嘲：上天的懲罰
從拒絕戴宋谷，到成為（州議會上）戴宋谷次數最多的人，雪州議長鄧章欽自嘲：“是上天對我的懲罰”。
他說，既然人民已給予委托，民主行動黨不能夠因為一頂“馬來西亞烏紗帽”，而把執政權拱手讓給國陣政府。
鄧章欽早年曾拒絕戴宋谷，惟本屆大選，民聯取得雪州執政權后，他于本月22日受委為雪州議長時，戴上宋谷宣誓。
日后州議會開會，他也必須穿上議長袍和戴上宋谷。而州議員則無需佩戴。
鄧章欽也把從一向來拒絕佩戴宋谷，到如今必須佩戴的轉變，風趣形容為上天對他的懲罰。
鄧章欽昨晚為本報講座擔任主講人，在問答環節中，面對發問者提問如何解決戴宋谷問題時，作出解釋，更把宋谷比喻為“馬來西亞烏紗帽”
他還笑稱，日后他在州議會內將成為佩戴宋谷次數最多的人。
另外，他也說，拒絕戴宋谷是民主行動黨的政策，不是他個人政策，惟不知道為甚么，他成為反對宋谷的代表人物。
不去皇宮沒委任狀
他解釋，在1982年前，戴宋谷在大馬並不是問題，問題起源于1982年后，國陣政府取得勝利及宣佈要實施一種語文、一種文化的政策。
“該政策當時也受到華社反對，也抗拒代表馬來文化的東西，對于強制佩戴宋谷極為抗拒，佩戴宋谷也被視為是強制加諸在我們身上的一種文化表現。”
鄧章欽說，隨著前首相拿督斯里馬哈迪宣佈放棄一種語文、一種文化政策，宋谷不再是強制文化代表，也不再是敏感問題。
他說，以前他們還是反對黨，還有選擇權力，可以為了不戴宋谷而不去皇宮。
他指出，如今已成為執政黨，如果不去皇宮就沒有委任狀。
“做了政府，我們就沒得選擇。我們等了50年，才打敗國陣政府，人民已給予我們委托，我們現在不能夠因為一頂宋谷，而把執政權交還給國陣政府。”
鄧章欽說，在州議會內，非回教徒議員無須佩戴宋谷。但議長服飾很早就已訂下來的規範，必須要遵從。
“不管有沒有見蘇丹，議長都必須要戴宋谷。所以我也必須跟從，我也是沒有辦法。”
問答錄
1.你擔任反對黨議員時，曾被議長驅逐出州議會一段時間，現在您已擔任議長，是否會採取同樣行動驅逐所謂“不聽話”議員？如果您驅逐國陣議員，會否被視為視為是公報私仇？
＊鄧章欽笑問台下：大家是否很希望見到他把前大臣驅逐出州議會？
他說，以怨報德是下等人，以怨報怨是三等人，以德報德是二等人，以德報怨是上等人。
“我也不知未來情況會如何。但無論如何，我對自己非常有信心，希望能做到以德報怨。”
相信只要所有議員包括國陣議員能按照程序，我都會以合理、合情、公平方式處理，讓所有議員在州議會發表意見、提呈問題。
如果州政府無法有效施政，而國陣議員能依序提問，而不是借題發揮，即使國陣議員的責問把州政府逼至難堪情況，我也是會按照程序讓國陣議員提問。
但若有議員只是借題發揮，我就會執行議長權力，包括要求對方停止發問、坐下，甚至于禁足及扣除10令吉薪金等。”
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2.陳先生詢問：集中養豬區是否進行？雪州是否可自由在巴剎售賣豬肉？
3.玉美小姐詢問：請問YB郭，您是否繼續捍衛豬農！東目養豬區是否勢在必行？
4.現代化科技養豬場為何要限制養豬只數量（產量），及限制出口（到他州或國外）？
＊郭素沁：民聯議員將在近期內下鄉和馬來社群交流，包括針對瓜冷東目養豬集中區事件作出解釋，以讓馬來社群更加瞭解此事，而不至于有人繼續挑釁民族情緒，甚至扭曲事實。
集中養豬區課題，較早前，前大臣拿督斯里莫哈末基爾曾反駁及否認前州政府曾批准養豬集中區計劃。
所幸我們在大選前剛好有接獲一批照片，有關照片是當時丹絨士拔區州議員拿督卡林曼蘇和州政府代表團，前往德回國考察養豬區，並該養豬區大為贊好，我們已也把照片放入網站中。
整個養豬集中區計劃還在討論中，包括其細節問題。但該養豬集中區未來計劃暫時性只供應給雪隆一帶，這主要是在雪隆一帶的豬肉大部分是由霹靂州和馬六甲供應。
至于會不會出口，如今還沒有討論到此事，相信暫時也還沒有要出口豬肉計劃。
＊鄧章欽：養豬集中區未來如何操作，是否要出口等課題，應該遲一點才討論。而如今最重要的是維護及確保州政府政策成功，為什么還要自我分裂？
州政府如今才只成立50天，如何能一步糾正前國陣州政府在過去50年來所做的一切，我認為應該要給州政府一些時間，凡事都要一步一步來，如果這方向是對的，就應該要繼續走下去。
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5.當不成副大臣，之后又做不成州行政議員，最后卻只當個議長，請問YB鄧有什么感受？
＊鄧章欽對這道問題大賣關子，他回答說：這問題我接受（傳媒）專訪時才回答，今天（記者）已經夠多東西寫了。這問題到時我一定會回答。
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6.哥打阿南莎州議員還在扣留營內，迄今未宣誓就任州議員，議長要如何處理宣誓問題？如過了6個月還無法宣誓，情況又會如何？
＊鄧章欽：4月22日雪州議員宣誓后，僅剩哥打阿南莎區州議員馬諾哈蘭因還被扣留在甘文丁扣留營內，還未宣誓。
根據條規，有關州議員在宣誓期（22/4）后6個月內必須宣誓，否則將喪失州議員資格，有關州議席也必須補選。
但條規並沒有規定該州議員只能夠在州議會內宣誓，根據我個人法律見解，我們是可以進入扣留營，讓他在扣留營內宣誓。
但詳細的細節，則必須和州法律局再進行研究。
過去也曾有一些議員在扣留營內宣誓的前例，例如已故陳國傑等。
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7.張先生：為何議長在講求議長改革時，還聲稱必須要和大臣討論，那是否意味著大臣所擁有的權力比議長還大？
＊鄧章欽：畢竟丹斯里卡立是大臣，我們若要在州議會中改革，按照情理，是必須和大臣討論，需要尊重及諮詢大臣意見，大家互相溝通。
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8.周女士：州議員怎樣處理查卡利亞“天堂”問題？
＊鄧章欽風趣回答，查卡利亞現在已不在其選區管轄內，也不知查卡利亞近況如何了？
他說，查卡利亞豪宅當初是涉及違例興建事件，此事被揭發時，屋主接獲傳票后，也已繳付罰款，另外也向地方政府提呈圖測申請。
圖測申請也在較后取得批准，擁有住用證，在法律觀點上，查卡利亞豪宅（風波）經結束。
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9.詢問：議長在州議會可以發表意見嗎？議長也是州議員，若不發表意見，怎樣把民生問題帶入州議會？
＊鄧章欽：議長在州議會是有發表意見的權力。但若在開州議會時，連議長也必須跳下場發表意見的話，那這個州政府的表現就可想而知。
至于針對州選區內的民生問題，我可以通過內部管道提呈和處理，無須特地在州議會時才提呈，因此大家無須為這問題擔心。
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10.葉先生：戴宋谷問題是否有把握解決？
＊鄧章欽：不戴宋谷是行動黨的政策，不懂做么，最后我變成不戴宋谷的代表。
當我還是反對黨時，我是有選擇余地，可以選擇不去皇宮，也無須戴宋谷。
但如今等了50年，才能成為雪州執政黨及州政府，做了執政黨就沒有選擇權力。
我們也不可能因為一頂帽子，而把州執政權交還給國陣。
11.馬先生：請問州議會為何一年只開6天會議？
＊鄧章欽：那是前大臣莫哈末基爾的時代，從今年開始，州議會不會每年只開6天會議，州議會開會的天數肯定會超過6天。
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12.尤先生：除了提出問題，議長是否可以在州議會投票？
＊鄧章欽：議長在州議會中擁有投票權，但議長行使投票權時，主要是在雙方投票后，票數是平等時，議長就可行使投票權，投入最重要的一票。
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13.莊小姐：為什么議長要辭掉自己的工作（律師）？有何衝突？
＊鄧章欽：議長必須在就職后3個月內辭去任何商業有關的職業，以避免有利益上的掛勾。不只是州議會，包括國會議長也必須要辭去所有工作。
另外，這也和形象有關，如果一位議長也出去談生意、做促銷，外人將如何看待該議長？
我辭去律師后，將全職作一位政治工作者，而議長薪金介于1萬5000、1萬6000之間，平常當個保險經紀，也不止這收入。
不過既然我們拿到政權，就有責任為民效勞，小小犧牲又有何足為道！
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About the Songkok, I can tell you that the songkok is innocent. It’s just some cloth knitted together.
Nowadays, when I wear my office attire would I be accused of trying to ditch my chinese background and trying to be a farang? Hell, we all look forward to the swim suit event in the Miss Hong Kong beauty pageant but is bikini or one piece hail from China?
The Chinese have been casting a weary eye over songkok not because of anything except the unequal treatment of different races in Malaysia. I am not against helping the poor Malays via NEP but when unfair implementation cause resentment; not helped by recent feable civil court decisions pertaining to religious dispute, resulting in unfavourable preception against songkok.
Do you see a lot of Chinese girls walking about in baju kurung? Why is there no hue and cry? We Chinese can be pretty inconsistent ourselves.
I am proud of my chinese heritage but not enough to make me feel un-Malaysian. In fact, I am proud to be a Malaysian that can interact and impress Chinese, Hong Kongers and Taiwanese by my command of various layer of Chinese languages and dialect.
In the same token, wearing a songkok does not make me a Malay, does not make me a muslim, does not meant I will abandon my family and beliefs.
Wearing a songkok can mean getting into someone’s house and respect their house rule. A white man come to my house and seeing we walk bare footed in our house, he would take off his shoes and socks as a mark of respect (smell not withstanding, John).
Mr Leee,
I see this is what this topic is all about, cos I could not read it from my screen. All that appear are hundreds of little square boxes !!!!
Anyway…. THE PROBLEM IS NOT about Non malays wearing malay dresses..
or Non moslem wearing moslem dresses..
THERE IS NO PROBLEM THERE..
it is the sincerity that matters..
What is the purpose of making it a MUST must must wear songkong and MUSt must wear Baju kurung.???
When Sabah girls are working in KL wearing a baju kurung, Come the month of Ramadhan and they are found eating in any shop? waaah, detained for a while with all the inconvenience of proving that they are not moslems..
Try check out a dusun christian wearing baju kurung enter a chinese shop during ramadhan and see the funny stares…
Last time I came to KL and enter a chinese shop, the tauke at least politely told me that the food there “ada daging babi” and I said, I can eat anything and I will punch anyone who tells me a cannot eat this and that.
SO however you guys or politicians argue that it is just a dress, the unseeeeen purpose is to try and subtly influence everyone to convert… to MOSLEM of course, thats why all the dress codes encourages you to MASUK melayu…
AS LONG AS THERE ARE RELIGIOUS BULLSHIT IN THIS COUNTRY, WE COULD NEVER HAVE A unity of one country one nation…
PAS AND UMNO must simply drop this religion bullshit.
as I said in MALAYSIA today, I prefer a world without religion, only then the hipocrisy will end.
PERIOD.
Malaysian governments (BN) have been doing lip service, no action. Annual targets are set but who is there to evaluate the degree of achievement? 50% failure, why? 20% success (200% money spent), has anybody ever bothered? NEP has been a failure and yet it is still used to mislead the public.
All the “zero” this, “zero” that are made during meetings, are just ornamental, showing that YBs are doing their work. Serve no other purpose. They are stupid to think that the people can still be misled.
We just wish that BR state govts will not follow the footsteps of their BN counterparts. Set up appraisal systems, justify every RM spent, answerable to your own conscience. Sincerity is the word. With these, BN federal govt will guarantee fall come the next GE.
Is there a way that I can copy this page’s link to translate it into English?
@Mr Lee
Well, the songkok issue is what this article is mostly about, eh? You’re very right on how you Malaysian Chinese can be inconsistent sometimes.
I’ve even read a comment in malaysia-today.net where a Malaysian Chinese claimed “they” (as if his view is reflecting the whole Chinese DAP community) didn’t wear songkok because it resembles MCA, which is UMNO’s kuli, and it’ll be too hurtful to wear it whenever they think about it.
That’s strange. The last time I went to an anime convention, about 80% of the visitors are Malaysian Chinese (there were even Singaporean as well). From what I was taught in History during my secondary school days, Chinese (both from Malaysia and China mainland) are supposed to be very anti-Japanese bcuz they were very cruel when they occupied this country and wouldn’t hesitate to chop off Chinese’s head, simply bcuz of their feud with the Chinese from China. Another thing, the Japanese helped the Malays through Kesatuan Melayu Muda, a pro-Japanese and anti-British movement.
That said, it’s bothers me how Chinese can be choosy to have a prejudice against Malays and anything associated with it, yet, they’re the major consumer of Toyota, Honda, Panasonic, Sony, as well as making up the majority of the otaku community (have a fetish for japanese anime, manga, drama etc). Sure, the UMNO have been extremely racist, but the Japanese would go to as far as chopping off the Chinese’s head as guilty-free as riding a bike. Tell me which is more cruel.
So, that said, I believe today’s Malaysian Chinese’s great support towards anything Japanese and willingness to forgive the Japanese’s sin towards their ancestors should be emulated to the Malays IMHO. A songkok, so what? In the anime convention I visited, I see them wearing kimonos, yukata, Japanese school uniforms etc costumes that resembles Japanese culture, fashion and likes, I certainly think their parents and grandparents knew about it, and yet, do they forbade them to wear it for reminding them of the pain they experienced during the Japanese occupation days? Nope, it didn’t matter at all if a Malaysian Chinese were to wear kimonos, a Malaysian Malay were to wear a costume bearing a cross mark, that we’re of different race, religion, even nationality. Everyone had a great time, it was our love for anime that united us together, and that mattered most to every single one of us.
Similarly, we Malaysians should emulate the harmony I experienced through our common love for the nation. So should you Malaysian Chinese still make a noise about the songkok issue? Drop it already, please.
no tokmoh. The Songkok is a very small part of this article.
most of it is about foreign investment into Selangor and lack of co-ordination between federal and state government, procedures in state assembly,
my comment about the little songkok distorted the impression on an very interesting article.
I wish I have time to translate it for you. Maybe I do it over the holidays and I hope YB kok can paste my transaltion…it will be a 3 hour job minimum.
I agree with you about us chinese liking the Japanese stuff despite the WWII things.
Mainland Chinese still harbour a lot of hatred towards the Japs but for us Malaysians, the younger generations are drawn towards to quality of Japanese goods and marketing. Give credit to the Jap for reviving their economy since the atom bombs. We Chinese being practical, would take the best in the market.
However, closer to home, the unfair enforcement of the NEP (not the basis of the policy itself) has resulted in resentment of the non-beneficiary of the NEP. Take scholarship award for instance.
Heck, if I’m in a party that has a Malay girl wearing a cheong sam sining some chinese songs, I would grill satay for her in a songkok and baju melayu coz it’s for fun and enjoyment. No issue for me and if we are strong in our religion belief, a simple piece of cloth won’t change our convinction.
Most of the attire these days worn by the Chinese are from the Western influence or foreign in style.Chinese who are against the wearing of the songkok are hypocrites.They send their children overseas to get a Western education.They should be sending their children to China if they are so concerned over losing their Chinese heritage or identity.
Why didn’t they complain when their children had to use a mortar board and graduation gown during the graduation ceremony. Those in the boarding schools had to conform to the school’s uniform , which sometimes include a felt hat. I have yet to hear of a Chinese parents disapproving of all these. So why can’t they accept the songkok as part of the attire for a ceremony.
The politicans should be concentrating on the corruptions other than makng a fuss over the attire.
Hi Teresa,
If Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim became the 6th Malaysian PM, who should be his deputy ?
Visit sonofpenang.blogspot.com for the survey.
@Mr Lee & lbl
Yeah, it’s great to see open minded Malaysian like you people 😀
That said, I despise how those UMNO biatches talk about Islamic stuffs to justify why the RM100 million pig farm should never be given the green light.
As Raja Petra have said, “Yes, makan babi, haram. Tapi makan duit perniagaan babi, tak haram. Makan duit rasuah dari perniagaan babi, tak haram. Makan gaji dari duit cukai perniagaan babi, tak haram. Cium ‘French kiss’ mulut GRO Cina yang makan babi, tak haram. Aiyah…..Melayu ni bangang sangatlah.”
http://www.malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/6201/84/
Idiots and hyprocrites can come from any race and religion I suppose. This recent political tsunami ought to give them, be it from BN or Pakatan Rakyat, a wake-up call to start becoming more mature, else, prepare to retire in GE13. Come on Pakatan Rakyat, take a step ahead than those BN beruks, drop the songkok and Islamic state issues. Focus towards serving the people. The voters definitely know you guys can do that much, much better than BN. Gambatte!!
HI,
The people who are STILL harping on race issues here are purely HARPING.
Harp and harp. and Hoping… a wedge..they hope to make.
ACTUALLY, most people are color blind now..maybe a bit of dissatisfaction, but still, its about reason and fairness stuff.(
If BN can be color blind..that will be good. A bit of blindness does helps..(so, just ignore that Mahmud was said to be a malay by Theresa..as the tone was kindly.)
YEs! we still buy honda and proton and eat sushi and nasi lemak and petai ..even if we know the history and treatments…so what! These shows we are color blind and forward looking and pragamatic and try to be peaceful in this modern world.
A DAY ago, I saw a (race cannot mentioned)lady with the white rod at a roadside near Masjid Jamek LRT station, hoiping to cross the busy street..she was a blind person. GUESS who helped her to cross the road? (hehe not me, i was driving and many cars were behind my back lah)…An old indian man ! who himslef looks tired himself..hold her white rod and lead her across the street.! IT was a pleasing sight of humanity…
Steven
Hi,
My view:
The ” problem ” with the songkok wearing issue is the “enforcement” of it.. NOBODY likes to be forced to.
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“They send their children overseas to get a Western education.They should be sending their children to China if they are so concerned over losing their Chinese heritage or identity.”
– Malaysian Chinese are denied fair access into local U onmerit. The parents save $$$ like hell so please don’t look down on them
– You kidding? How many Chinese U does the Malaysian government recognise? Besides the best Us are in thrieving democratic countries
“Why didn’t they complain when their children had to use a mortar board and graduation gown during the graduation ceremony.”
– Chinese place great emphasis on education and it is the pride to see their children graduate. Now the mortar is from not a party which is involved in the implementation of the NEP (note my point in previous posting)
“Those in the boarding schools had to conform to the school’s uniform , which sometimes include a felt hat. I have yet to hear of a Chinese parents disapproving of all these.”
-dittio
” So why can’t they accept the songkok as part of the attire for a ceremony.”
– is the effect if NEP implementation, or the misapplication of it, that caused unhappiness amongst non-beneficiaries
The undesirable effect is
1) lacklustre work culture
2) uncompetitive work force
3) hospitals that maims more than cure
4) buildings that are not safe
5) unimaginative business models
6) huge unemployed graduates
7) too many foreign workers
These are just among a few tangible result of a misapplied noble policy
Say if MCA was the dominant party instead of UMNO, do you think UMNO and the MIC will have a fair share of the Malaysian cake?
The Chinese started corrupting others and now they are complaining about corruption.
Why are the Chinese referred as “towkay” by other races?
If you believe strongly in your heritage , you must make sacrifices to achive it.
You do not talk about your heritage when you are willing to adopt another language or culture to get a better standard of living.
Probably you have not seen or experienced the Chinese “fixers” in practically all government Departments before Merdeka.
You may also not have heard of “Tan Chong” transfer in the Army if you make a complaint on the quality of goods supplied by them.
The Chinese started corrupting others and now they are complaining about corruption.
— can you show the evidence that corruption is started by Chinese?
— back during the times of kesultanan Melaka, Melaka has to pay tribute to Siam and later decided to pay China to gain protection so history proves that payment for favour started early, very early and how do you know “he started it first, teacher?”
Why are the Chinese referred as “towkay” by other races?
— if you talk about Soh Chin Aun, it is the way he marshalled the defence for Selangor, Melaka & Malaysia
— towkay literally means head of the family. chinese business are mostly family business so the nickname shows a sign of respect of the family and hardwork
— towkay does not mean corruptor. we have other words for that
“If you believe strongly in your heritage , you must make sacrifices to achive it.”
— do you know how much we Malaysian Chinese struggled to protect our chinese primary schools and mother tongue education?
I hope you do. Denied of proper government funding despite being paying hell lot of taxes, denied allocation of human and land resources.
There is one name that people in the know would offer their deepest respect – Lim Lian Yuk.
‘You do not talk about your heritage when you are willing to adopt another language or culture to get a better standard of living.”
— we keep our heritage while absorbing what is worthwhile from other civilisation. Why not? It’s being flexible and open-minded.
–I speak my mother tongue, respect my ancestors and culture yet I read and write in English so I can be a citizen of the world. If I just want to stick to bigotry and languised in destitution, I would be doing a disfavour to myself, my family and my country.
— all Malaysians are doing it. Do we not watch TV, surf internet, go to hypermarkets, read newspapers & books, drive a car? All these are not from Malaya, China or India. If you are true to your principles, why are you here?
MCA was supposed to defend the Chinese culture etc. What happened to them all this while?
Did they do a good job?
The Malays had Bersih and the Indians had Hindraf to prove their point.What did the Chinese do? Just talk and grumble in the comfort of their homes.
The Bersih and Hindraf marchers made the Government notice their problems.
Anyone can talk and grumble of their dissatisfactions without taking any risks.
How come the Chinese did not march to prove their points to the government?
You said:”Denied of proper government funding despite being paying hell lot of taxes, denied allocation of human and land resources.” Why don’t you organise a march to prove your point? Like they say, action speaks louder than words.
IBI
Do you read Chinese newspapers? The way Chinese community strive for its cultural survival is more on fund-raising, self-financing etc
Chinese organise fund collection from hawkers’ fare, donation from businesses, contribution from beer revenue. These funds usually end up in chinese schools.
If you know the story about the “tai seng koong” defending the primary school in Damansara to his death? You would change your mind.
The Chinese do not march on the street because being relatively economically well-off they are not that desparate. It is also a trait of Chinese to solve their problems by pooling economic resources together.
Taking matters to the street is not the only way to solve your problems.
We still have lion dance teams that usually end up being first or second in the lion dance competition beating teams from Hong Kong, China and Taiwan. Not too bad, eh?
MCA defending the Chinese culture? I don’t know about their track record but I can tell you that there are many volunteers out there doing that. One of my school mates devoid his entire life towards Chinese dance and culture. His livelihood depends on that.
Lee Wee Tak
Sorry I don’t read Chinese newspaper.
What you are trying to say is the Chinese prefer to pay others to do their dirty work for them?
They prefer to bribe their way rather than go to court to fight their cases?
I am sure there are some good Malaysian citizens who are Chinese. Many are dedicated to what they profess in.
Lim Kit Siang , Lim Guan Eng and many DAP MPs and members who could have done well if they joined BN, but chose to sacrifice their beliefs and stay poor.
I take my hat to them for the sacrifices they made. Try staying in prison for one month. They to me are putting their money where their mouth is.
Unfortunately there are also many Chinese who can talk but cannot work. This group are the most dangerous ones.People who cannot work should talk less. Many people like to condemn the system etc. but will not be a member of a political party to make their voice heard.
They prefer to shout from the comforts of their homes.
Say, sometimes we blame our MPs for not attending to our problems. These MPs will have many other problems to attend and we must take our queue.
Again I take my hat to YB LKS and other MPs for keeping us informed through their blogs inspite of their tight schedule.One has to appreciate that they are human also.They also want some private life.
“Sorry I don’t read Chinese newspaper.
What you are trying to say is the Chinese prefer to pay others to do their dirty work for them?
They prefer to bribe their way rather than go to court to fight their cases?”
I agree with you that there are many Chinese that are selfish, timid, all talk and no action only. Some goes for all races, Malays, Indians, white, black, brown, pola dot all over the world.
While you bravely admit you don’t read Chinese newspaper, you have disqualifed yourself from making sweeping statement about Chinese. There are many many Chinese who toil away and you don’t know about them.
There are many, who are ignorant about the system and their civil rights, might choose to pay their way out. Sometimes, they are victim of a system, or sometimes they are going against a system. In the same token, are you saying all government servants are bribe takers? That would be a disservice to those honest numbers among them.
Whatever the case maybe, you have no right to categorise a race just like that.
I would not say all Malays are lazy, all Indians are wife beaters, all jews are zioinist, all Arabs are terrorists, all Americans are war mongers, all English are football hooligans, all Africans are black. To me that is shallow and disrespectful of others.
Just curious, I presume you are not of Chinese origin? Why the Chinese bashing? I think Pek Yang’s “ugly chinaman” is a good read for you.
Dear IBI,
On second thought I think I did not do justice to your valid points of view. You have rightly single out Lim Kit Siang & co.
I once remarked to and agreed by an astute female friend of mine that majority of the Chinese is “kia si” (scared of death – i.e. afraid to take on issues). Let’s look at the historical prospective.
Almost all the Chinese that came to Malaya and Borneo during the 19th century and early 20th century have 2 aims – 1) escape the crazy political instability in China (the Taiping Revolution cause an astounding 40 MILLION casualty, > than all Malaysians and Singaporeans today) 2) earn a decent living, accumulate health and balik kampong.
This mentality of seeking wealth, safety and harmony has passed down to subsequent generations hence the Malaysian Chinese are considered gentler and less aggressive than Chinese in Taiwan, mainland China and Hong Kong. Political activism there is significantly more aggressive in more than 1 ways.
As for Malaysian Chinese who can be more aggressive, I did some mental research and come up to these few examples to share with you, hoping that it can add on to your observation and hopefully reshape somewhat your opinion.
1) Lim Boo Seng – Min Yuen operator during the Japanese occupation who was betrayed, captured, tortured by the Kempeitai, and according to Colonel Spenser Chapman, “died with his lips sealed.” Mister Lim, together with Leftnan Adnan and the doctor Cybil (can’t recall her full name) have my deepest honour and respect.
Incidentally when some Chinese enacted a memorial slab to commemorate anti-Japanese occupation on private property, the Negri Sembilan State government wanted to tear it down as it interprets as communist memorial. I blame it on the shallowness of the history syllabus of our education system.
2) Lim Lian Yit – he defended the survival of Chinese education, schools and spirit, fighting off mainland Nationalist politicians with ulterior motive, British imperialist administrators and Malaya administrators who are not exactly staunch supporter of Chinese education system.
It s noted that Mister Lim wanted the syllabus of the Chinese schools here to pledge their loyalty to Malaya & its multi racial harmony and not to mainland China. Mister Lim died defending his belief stripped of his citizenship. He did less harm than a drug pusher, bank robber, rapist and unit trust salesman (tongue in cheek, this one) and lost his citizenship. How many drug pusher lost his citizenship when he went into the gallows.
Our school history books have often portrayed communist fighters as terrorists. (Then again, hostory books are written by the victors)While I do not support their mode of struggle not their eventual objective of communist rule, I can quote them as a counter-argument of yours then Chinese in Malaysia are pussy cats.
The new generations of Chinese youth would be more proactive. We have a mixed bag, like Tian Chua the street fighter mode, Mr. Lims in parliament, countless NGOs to stand firm and contribute to the society. Let’s be optimistic.
“What you are trying to say is the Chinese prefer to pay others to do their dirty work for them?”
You may have to explain what you are trying to say here because most of us are not involved in organised crime so we do not engage guns for hire.
The closest thing I can think of is we Chinese do pay maids, factory workers and labourers to look after our homes, factories, restautant and businesses and in the course of their work, they would encounter filth, rubbish and dirt.
perhaps I am doing a disservice to the folks at Bandar Mahkota. That bunch would fit your bill for brave street fighters, no?
Dear Lee Wee Tak,
In any race you will agree we have the good and the bad guys. At present I am only talking of the bad guys that give the Chinese a bad name.Mostly Chinese frequent Genting and that does not mean all Chinese are gamblers. There are Chinese who hate gambling but some how many people think if you are a Chinese you must be a gambler.Just like, not all Americans have the “Ugly American” image. There are also generous Jews, Muslims etc.
During the Japanese Occupation many Chinese in the MPAJA gave their lives.Then came the Emergency when the Chinese had a bad name.
You are referring to Sybil Kathigasu wife of Dr. A.C. Kathigasu.They had a practice in Papan and Ipoh.Inspite of her torture by the Japanese, somehow her name was forgotten. In this present world good deeds are often forgotten but bad deeds remain.
Chye Kooi Loon was trying to commonerate the Battle of Kampar unfortunate he is having some obstacles.Yes, also the Chinese educationist made sacrifices, but their deed are forgotten to those who benefitted.
I do not know if you have read alias Chin Peng, My Side of History. in my opinion he should never be allowed to settle in Malaysia. When one believe in a struggle etc ,one has to be consistent in their beliefs at all cost.Otherwise don’t do it. I hear the DAP speaker was against wearing the songkok but eventually gave in.
Please note I am not on a bashing spree against the Chinese. Just telling you my opinion in this debate.
If you read the Chinese papers they will always give you the inside story from the official version of any incident. It is up to the individual to draw their own conclusions. Likewise you just draw your own conclusions to what I have written.