The Internal Security Act under Article 149 of the Malaysian Constitution permits the detention, at the discretion of the Home Minister, without charge or trial of any person in respect of whom the Home Minister was satisfied that such detention was necessary.
A week ago, we have witnessed yet again, the abuse of the ISA.
To demonstrate stand on the abolishment of the ISA and to show our solidarity and support with all ISA detainees and their families, we are organising a forum with invited speakers with details as follows:
Date: 23 Sep 2008 (Tue)
Time: 8:00 pm
Venue: KL & Selangor Chinese Assembly Hall, Jln Maharajalela, Kuala Lumpur
Admission is Free
Speakers:
* Lim Guan Eng, Penang Chief Minister, ex-ISA detainee
* Teresa Kok, Selangor State Exco, ex-ISA detainee
* A. Sivanesan, Perak State Exco, DAP ADUN Sungkai
* Khalid Samad, PAS MP Shah Alam
* Nurul Izzah binti Anwar, PKR MP Lembah Pantai
* Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan, Bar Council President
* Syed Ibrahim Syed Noh, Chairman of Gerakan Mansuhkan ISA (GMI)
Moderator: Tunku Aziz Ibrahim
The wives of some of the current ISA detainees, Raja Petra Kamaruddin, M Manoharan (DAP ADUN Kota Alam Shah) and V Ganabathirao will be present and be given an opportunity to speak.
On this International Peace Day
Let us all without further delay
Find solutions to make peace stay
Otherwise there’ll be too high a price to pay
(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 210908
http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
Sun. 21st Sept. 2008.
Hi to everyone,
Before i go further i want to ask you guys in this blog or any other blog you all might be associated. You all (especially) the Pakatan Rakyat take America as a good example of democracy and freedom but remember America also has a preventative law similar to ISA called The Patriot Act (its much2 worst, u will have no privacy at all, the American govt will tap into your phone and computer line and yes they can arrest people without warrant/prove watsoever). So America still good?
Its not a surprise every government in this world need to ensure peace and stability is uphold. You think America is the champion of human rights? Think again,there’s a long list of human right abuse by America inside America and abroad and only God’s know since when they start to abuse human right. (Remember the Red Indian, the native people in America?)Where are they now? In a compound and they are probihited to go beyond the compound. Its that a good example of human rights.
About having this road sign with multilanguage. Have anyone of you been to America? Do you see African, Mexican, Spanish, Chinese, Indian language at their road sign? No because the American people accept the fact that English is American language and being an American they should adopt English as their everyday official language for education or business. So why make a fuss about language use for road sign in Malaysia if you think America is a the best example of everything.
Please be rational,please be grateful that we are indeed living in a beautiful and peaceful country. I’m not attached to any political party and my comment are purely base on fact.
One more thing, i never trust any politician entirely. You guys politician are very good in creating chaos and make innocent public like us fight for u and some of us even die fighting for politician sake and for what? Be it PR or BN the power you have is from us the rakyat. We can make you all out of the govt and be powerless faster than the time you take to gain power.
To all innocent public out there make sure you know the facts before you act.
Rgds.
Detention without is really cruel and inhumanity and most importantly it tends to become political tools to put their opponent out of the political scene.
Detention based on several person’s judgment without any concrete evidence will lead to innocent peoples being held up for nothing too (our sassy MP case, kickdefella, and many more.)
it’s time to abolish this.
kchan
http://www.my4chan.com
I DONT QUITE AGREE with the total abolishment of ISA,
rather it should be amended to arrest only the following…
1. Real terrorist where the police has already obtained basic evidence of their terrorist activities such as some monitoring pictures
2. Those found to forge ICs, passports, allowed foreigners in via bribes etc
3. Those who have committed crimes that endanger the serurity and economy of the nation, examples those sabotaging electrical installation thru theft
4. Those who endanger the human rights of any citizens…including those who ordered the arrest of Mother Teresa due to political jealousy…
Even with the existing laws, Dr TOYOL and Pendatang Ahmad Ismail should already have been arrested.
Maybe those who practice double standards should also be arrested under the ISA.
12 Sept 2008
Raja Petra (1.30pm)
Tan Hoon Cheng (8.30pm)
Teresa Kok (11.18pm)
This is my feeling on 912 ISA Day!!!…
912 … ISA Day
Alqudz9’s information is wrong.
There are signboards in spanish in some states in the US. There are signboards in Malay/Indonesian in Western Australia.
In Los Angeles in the Korean quarter, all the shops have signboards in Korean and not at all in English. One wouldn’t know what these shops traded in!
Signboards are ‘to communicate’ with the reader, and not to make a statement!
Malays are fond of threats. That is a large part of their modus operandi. There is no need for threats Mr. Alqudz9. Malays are welcome to go back to umno!
Hi Temenggong,
“Malays are fond of threats. That is a large part of their modus operandi. There is no need for threats Mr. Alqudz9. Malays are welcome to go back to umno!”
This is not a fair comment as not all Malays associated with UMNO. Anwar Ibrahim, Nik Aziz, Haji Hadi even Tunku Abdul Aziz the DAP Vice Chairman is Malay.
[There are signboards in spanish in some states in the US. There are signboards in Malay/Indonesian in Western Australia].
[In Los Angeles in the Korean quarter, all the shops have signboards in Korean and not at all in English. One wouldn’t know what these shops traded in!]
Yes thats true and it only apply to certain area not nationwide. You see Malaysia does not necessarily follow what others are doing or did. We can be unique and make our own mould.
Can u please name me one country in the world that all the citizens is satisfied & all their needs is fullfilled? Any leader or group of leaders can never satisfied 100% any of their citizen but they will put their best effort to do it. We only human.
I believe we are unique!
So, let’s abolish or review ISA. To be the “first” that let people to voice out…not to catch/detain them without even a trial.
It’s 2008…let’s talk bout the future…not the past. We have to move on… We have to evolve… We have to create our own rules & law that benefit every citizen of Malaysia.
No more colors in Malaysia but just Malaysian!
If we still wait, we will become our neighbor – Indonesia. I dun want that…i want to surpass Singapore or Australia.
Pls.. as the rakyat’s representative… the first move: to abolish or review ISA is a MUST!
Hi nobita,
Thats why we must be grateful with what we have right now. Think about it, more than 50years ago the Malays, Chinese and Indian work together to form the Perikatan. Our ancestors know that the West/the Europe is the biggest evil of all. Read history. Look how the mighty Dynasty of China, Dynasty of India and other civilization around the world attacked and brought down by the West.
We also must be grateful that instead of launching wars againts other race to gain the independence 50 years ago the Malays under Tunku Abd Rahman choose to form the nation together. Otherwise Nobita we could be like Indonesia whether u r Chinese, Indian your wont be able to use your Chinese or Indian name.
I urge innocent public out there to be rational and use our minds and not be emotional. I urge politician to use their power wisely because the power you have is from us the rakyat.
ISA should not be abolished but to be amended accordingly to the current situation. Its the same as The Patriot Act used in America. U see even America the most developed country still use Preventative Laws to ensure stability and peace. Why not Malaysia?
alqudz9, American used it against terrorists, UMNO in malaysia used it against Opposition members. Please do not be ignorant. That’s a big difference. If America does not stopped Osama bin ladin, who in the world will help us. Osama has even bombed Jarkarta and Bali,both cities in predominantly muslim country. That’s why RPK has always said that Muslims as being the own enemy. For that he was napped under ISA.
Yes, latest news, osama bombed Marriot in Pakistan. alqudz9, are there muslims who died in Marriot? The answer is obvious? Yet again RPK was right!
alqudz9; Let me remind you that the ISA was a relic left by our colonial British masters for the purpose to thwart the communist insurgency during the birth of Malaysia 50 years ago.It was left for 1 simple purpose, that is, to do the job of protecting all Malaysians of diversified culture and race against the communists.
CPM under Chin Peng has made peace with our government decades ago. In Sarawak, PARAKU then under Bong Kee Chok also strike peace with the Sarawak government in 1973. Isn’t there is peace in our country and that ISA should rest in peace with it?
To refine the ISA to suit the current situation, perhaps in our country of the day, is to give the politicians in Malay UMNO continuous abuse of power and strike fear on the rakyat to continue remain in power for the next 50 years!!. They use it to jail even parliamentarian like YB Teresa. And you think this is a wise act on its own people??.
Allow me to pose you, if such Act is successful to maintain stability, then why on earth does the big superpowers are waging war against terrorists who are largely also Moslems. It has failed in its purpose and so it has to go and rest in peace.
Hi new era & anak sarawak,
Now you are being biased againts muslim.
Can you please define terrorist.
Are you guys terrorist expert?
RPK is a man of confusion. He critics everyone, he even critics his own religion. Is this the kind of person you believed in?
Hi alqudz9,
I do not think RPK is a confused man. He is just expressing his opinion, say, on religion. I am sure there are some religion experts who can answer him back.
The people who he critise can always sue him for defamation.
Why lock him up under ISA?
Unless those concerned cannot have answers for what he has written?
Hi ibl,
A man who called himself a muslim should express his opinion or view to the right persons. In this case he can always see the Mufti of Selangor for example if he still have doubts or uncertainty of Islam.
I’m sure he have access to the Mufti of Selangor as he is one of the nephew of the late Agong, Sultan Salahudin Abd Aziz Shah. Not every opinion can be expressed publicly without he knowing the facts first. He who claim himself a muslim should know better before expressing his view blindly.
alqudz9, I am not baised against muslims, its muslims that is baised against fellow muslims.
you are naive, go read his articles and how the Imam tried to “turn him” but failed. I would say that the government is just not tolerant of modern liberal muslims opinions. So used ISA to prevent him from spreading his teaching.
Hi new era,
Liberal Islam? A new way of Islam,influenced by the West.
I have read his article before and he is far beyond the teachings of Al-Quran and As-Sunnah.
That’s why the Imam want to turn him in. The Imam is doing his duty.
If RPK Liberal views is so correct and so truth why even Anwar Ibrahim or Tuan Guru Haji Hadi Awang or Tuan Guru Nik Aziz didn’t come forward and support PFK and his Liberal Islam?
RFK is only a tool of West who want to tarnish the image of Islam. If he want to change ISA, then its ok. If he want to change Islam than its another story altogether and it will mark the end of him.
Please dont read this blog only or RPK blog only to know information. Read from all media, read from all blogs in the internet than only you can have a pool of information for you to digest and come out with a correct view,answer,perception. Don’t let hatred cover your heart,minds.
Alqudz, fair enough, all malays are not like umnomalays.
Certain areas can have multiple lingual signboards, like airports, tourist areas, etc. But even that is not followed in Malaysia! We should have signs in Japanese and Chinese as we have many tourists from there. Certain areas of KL and Penang too can have signs in Arabic. The purpose is to make it easy for travellers.
Since Chinese and Indians form a large part of west coast of Malaya, there should be no reason why road signs and signboards cannot be in chinese and tamil. Again the reason is to easily communicate!
That apart, citizens too should be allowed to sponsor road signs in multiple languages. And even name roads after loved ones or national heroes, instead of numbered roads like Jalan PJS 1/7, etc.
Lor… Be like Singapore la.. I tot DAP wants Malaysia to be like Singapore meh?
Singapore still got ISA maaa….
YB,
You should also send a personal invitation letter to Syed Hamid to attend. The AG and the IGP should also be invited so that they can offer their point of view.
In all fairness, all parties should be there and be heard instead of only the abolish ISA team.
Not forgetting to invite your fellow politicians from MCA, Gerakan and MIC. If they fail to attend, this goes to show the public they are just a bunch of ‘tin kosong’ when you were arrested under the ISA.
Hi Temenggong,
Agree about the communication part.
But if for communication purposes, i doubt that Malaysian do not understand Bahasa Malaysia.
Basically Bahasa Malaysia and English is the language use in kindergaten up to university.
Even if there is no road sign in other language, i believed that people still can read and understand the road sign and when people can understand the current road sign there’s no issue in communication.
Please name me one example of road sign that you cannot understand unless its in other language.
As i mentioned earlier we the innocent public cannot let ourself to be a tool for any political agenda. This road sign for instance has been hijack to be a big issue. More than 50years back i never heard road sign issue.
I say lets get together to tackle the poverty in our country, lets help the homeless, lets help to fight for disabled person rights. these are the things worth to fight for. We need to see a bigger picture. Life is not only about road sign.
Money for the multi language road sign instead can be used to make a special lane/walkway for disable persons so they can reach every inch of the city just like us. The fund also can be used to set up special washroom or maybe a bus or train that is user friendly to the disabled person.
How Malaysia have such a dumb dumb running the home ministry is beyond understanding. He cant even talk properly in public. This Baldie guy is a shame and disgrace to Malaysia. He should be the guy to be detained in ISA instead.
alqudz9, if you are happy with the way things are, stay happy. Good for you.
As for the rest of us who are fighting against abuses of power, injustices and corrupt leaders, let us fight on. We want a much better Malaysia. We deserve a much better Malaysia.
alqudz9, wrote
“Liberal Islam? A new way of Islam,influenced by the West.”
This is the age of rising consciousness, who gave u the idea that liberal islam came from the west? If a person can think out of the box and they can also think what is relevant with modern living and do not have to depend on western thoughts to get it right rationally and logically.
“I have read his article before and he is far beyond the teachings of Al-Quran and As-Sunnah.
That’s why the Imam want to turn him in. The Imam is doing his duty.”
But not the want I refer to though. What duty did the Imam did when he just listen to him?
Yes, he is far beyond the teachings of Al-Quran and As-Sunnah, because his knowledge is indepth and realistically looked a life as it is, and observed the hyprocrites that trived among us.
“If RPK Liberal views is so correct and so truth why even Anwar Ibrahim or Tuan Guru Haji Hadi Awang or Tuan Guru Nik Aziz didn’t come forward and support PFK and his Liberal Islam?”
How do u know there is no support from these people? That’s ur perception. My perception is different than urs,
“RFK is only a tool of West who want to tarnish the image of Islam. If he want to change ISA, then its ok. If he want to change Islam than its another story altogether and it will mark the end of him.”
Who gave u the idea that he wants to changed Islam, he observed the behaviour of his muslims brothers and reflect it in his numerous articles
Again the bashing of the “west” or America, first of all please get rid of ur prejudice of the west. Its people like u that are likely supporter of the 911 incident and supporter of the bombing of pakistan marriot hotel 2 days ago.
“Please dont read this blog only or RPK blog only to know information. Read from all media, read from all blogs in the internet than only you can have a pool of information for you to digest and come out with a correct view,answer,perception. Don’t let hatred cover your heart,minds.”
No intended hatred of anyone, when I comment with open mind but u don’t let hatred of American or things western cover your heart & minds.
Cheers
Hi new era,
“This is the age of rising consciousness, who gave u the idea that liberal islam came from the west? If a person can think out of the box and they can also think what is relevant with modern living and do not have to depend on western thoughts to get it right rationally and logically.”
If RPK is concious he’ll be back to the true teaching of Islam. We may be in the internet age and space age but the teaching in Al-Quran and As-Sunnah will remain as it is. Whatever age we are in the Al-Quran and As-Sunnah will always be relevant.
“Yes, he is far beyond the teachings of Al-Quran and As-Sunnah, because his knowledge is indepth and realistically looked a life as it is, and observed the hyprocrites that trived among us.”
What is the use of knowledge of being a muslim if he doesn’t apply it? Does he know that as a muslim its his resposibility to ensure he also cannot make statement without any evidence. Without solid evidence its a fitnah, its a sin.
“Who gave u the idea that he wants to changed Islam, he observed the behaviour of his muslims brothers and reflect it in his numerous articles
Again the bashing of the “west” or America, first of all please get rid of ur prejudice of the west. Its people like u that are likely supporter of the 911 incident and supporter of the bombing of pakistan marriot hotel 2 days ago.”
I don’t create the idea, u can read and listen to the media, read throughout the web how the West oppress the world and when people want to stand againts them the West call them terrorist. Islam means peace and safe. Its never in the teaching of Islam to explode things up indeed Islam promote talks and discussions to find the best solutions.
911, don’t be so sure that it is caused by some arab terrorist group claim by America. Again please look throroughly in the internet even the American people agree that 911 is a well laid plan by certain local extremist group and the US govt itself to tarnish the image of Islam and create Islamophobia.I want to suggest 2 books to u that you can find in MPH or other major book store.
The 1st one is: Final Judgement and 2nd The High Priest of War writen by Michael Collins Piper from American Free Press. If you still need further explanation you may write to him at [email protected]. He is not a muslim but he is a friend of peace and you’ll be surprise with the facts he have.
ISA PROTEST: DO A ZAHID, BOYCOTT OPEN HOUSE
I call upon all civilized Malaysians to stand up for Raja Petra. In simple ways we can do our bit.
For a start I would urge all Malaysians who are against the abuse of the ISA and want it abolished to send your message to this deaf and blind government. How?
Do a Zahid – in your own way. If you are a member of any of the Barisan Nasional component parties resign as a member today. Tell your leader why you are quitting the party.
Since your party is a component of this immoral regime why must you associate yourself with it.
Next step. Boycott all open houses held by any leader from Barisan Nasional
alqudz9 wrote,
“If RPK is concious he’ll be back to the true teaching of Islam. We may be in the internet age and space age but the teaching in Al-Quran and As-Sunnah will remain as it is. Whatever age we are in the Al-Quran and As-Sunnah will always be relevant.”
Whether he embraced ur defination of “true teaching” is none of my concerned. All religion evovled through times, discard outdated practised and embraced new ones. Religion that do not changed with lifestyle and times causes worldly havoc and sufferings, ironically.
As far as I am concerned no religion either christian, islam and etc are not superior in comparision to one another.
I have always believed that in matters of religion its between him and his maker whether he follows the right teaching and no laws can force a person to change his conciousness, and neither can u changed RPK mind. Is ur perception that ur teaching is the real Islam. So be it. People can beg to differ. But I will defend RPK right of speech even though I may not agree with him.
“What is the use of knowledge of being a muslim if he doesn’t apply it? Does he know that as a muslim its his resposibility to ensure he also cannot make statement without any evidence. Without solid evidence its a fitnah, its a sin.”
Are u naive, he has applied it in his writings that caused him to be imprisoned under ISA. He has exposed how hypocritical his muslim brothers are that cause the displeasured from the politician and the UMN0 government. How do u know that he has no evidence when his sedition trial has not even started he has been imprisoned under ISA? Is it not fitnah and sinful to imprisoned someone under ISA without evidence?
“I don’t create the idea, u can read and listen to the media, read throughout the web how the West oppress the world and when people want to stand againts them the West call them terrorist. Islam means peace and safe. Its never in the teaching of Islam to explode things up indeed Islam promote talks and discussions to find the best solutions.”
U still don’t get it, the question was on RPK as u imply that he tried to changed Islam. But u went on a tirate media/net said that the west oppress the world…blah ..blah….Yes islam promote talks and discussion…..tell that to the Bar Councillah !!!! whether they can agree with u. So good that u got ur news on west bashing on the net, but u must evaluate it objectively whether its craps or not. That’s freedom of expression denied to RPK now.
“911, don’t be so sure that it is caused by some arab terrorist group claim by America. Again please look throroughly in the internet even the American people agree that 911 is a well laid plan by certain local extremist group and the US govt itself to tarnish the image of Islam and create Islamophobia.I want to suggest 2 books to u that you can find in MPH or other major book store.
The 1st one is: Final Judgement and 2nd The High Priest of War writen by Michael Collins Piper from American Free Press. If you still need further explanation you may write to him at [email protected]. He is not a muslim but he is a friend of peace and you’ll be surprise with the facts he have.”
Yet, another conspiracy theory about 911. Yes Osama admission on 911 must be planted by CIA to screw up the muslim world. Yeah, yeah…. Be real man! Don’t see thing when thay are not there. What a load of pulp fiction. Show solid proof mann!
[Whether he embraced ur defination of “true teaching” is none of my concerned. All religion evovled through times, discard outdated practised and embraced new ones. Religion that do not changed with lifestyle and times causes worldly havoc and sufferings, ironically.]
Its not my definition of True Teaching. The teaching of Islam that i mentioned is a teaching practised by all muslim around the world. Muslim around the world may have different views according to four main mazhab but all the mezhab agreed that should not be differences in mainstream matters. For example if a muslim want to marry another person with other faith. He or she can’t change to that faith. True faith doesn’t require updating for the sake of certain people that craze for power or lust. God make this world, HE knows what happen in the past,present,future.
Are u associated to any political party?
If you associated with DAP than good for you because you have PAS in the Pakatan Rakyat. Please meet any of the PAS members and brought forward any matters regarding Islam that you could not understand. They will assist you to understand. All muslims are responsible to explain any misunderstanding towards Islam.
Nowadays its very hard to see true teaching of Islam being practised by muslims. In Malaysia you may go Kelantan, Perlis, Kedah to observed. You may also go to China to the province of Yunan, Henan, Xinjiang, Gansu, and Ningxia where they are muslims that preach and practice Islam since Tang Dynasty.
I hope you can find the 2 books i suggested to you,the books by Michael Collins Piper.
I’m glad that we have this sort of discussion and if you have any questions please do share it with me. I’ll be glad to help you to understand.
[email protected]
The different between US and Malaysia is the government. Even with Patriot Act Americans can sue and use other laws to remove the government right. In Malaysia what make you think these BN is not listening or monitoring your conversation on the phone. If you are under ISA that is the end of the road for you and in worst case they can use it to their benefit just like Teresa and RPK cases.
Dear YB Teresa,
I read the Human Rights Watch report on ISA detainees in Malaysia and I am extremely disgusted. I hope that your experience under the ISA can help those in Kamunting.
http://hrw.org/reports/2005/malaysia0905/
Whether they were terrorists or not, no one deserves to be treated like that. Not humans, Not animals.
Please appeal for humane treatment of prisoners and detainees and the abolishment of ISA.
We also have other way to remove the current G thats what Anwar Ibrahim waiting for the Parliament to be in session again and he can table the no confidence motion.
Ok back to Patriot Act, American hates it as much as we hates ISA.
You may refer to the link below:
http://pol.moveon.org/patriotact/
[Stop the Patriot Act It’s time to take a stand on the Patriot Act. The White House is pressuring Congress to reauthorize it without including meaningful protections on the freedoms of innocent Americans. A bipartisan group of senators have agreed to fight the Patriot Act –by filibuster if necessary. We are standing with them in this fight.]
http://stoppatriotact.meetup.com/
http://www.j4na.org/patriotact.php
http://www.ronpaulfan.com/2007/09/13/ron-paul-would-abolish-the-so-called-patriot-act/
petitions.takingitglobal.org/actnow
Quote:
[Before the Patriot Act was passed, Anita Ramasastry, an associate professor of law and a director of the Shidler Center for Law, Commerce, & Technology at the University of Washington School of Law in Seattle, Washington, accused the Act of depriving basic rights for immigrants to America, including legal permanent residents. She warned that “Indefinite detention upon secret evidence — which the Patriot Act allows — sounds more like Taliban justice than ours.]
And thats only a few of the fight againts Patriot Act.
Let see how is U.S. Human Rights Report for 2007 (full text). New Era i’m not bashing U.S but just have a look at the fatcs for comparison purposes only with the one provided by minmean.
This is item no 5.
V. On Racial Discrimination
Racial discrimination is a deep-rooted social illness in the United States.
Black people and other minor ethnic groups live in the bottom of the American society. According to statistics released by the U.S. Census Bureau in August 2007, median income of black households was 31,969 U.S. dollars in 2006, or 61 percent of that…. (please go to the link to read full text).
http://www.gov.cn/misc/2008-03/13/content_918785_5.htm
Hi new era,
http://www.harakahdaily.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=017038&Itemid=108
Pastikan PAS terus bergerak ikut landasan Islam
Roslan Shahir
Fri | Sep 19, 08 | 3:55:14 pm MYT
Kerana sayangkan PAS, satu-satunya gerakan Islam dalam negara yang berjuang mengikut lunas demokrasi bagi memartabatkan Islam di tanah air ini, maka kita akan lakukan apa sahaja untuk memastikan yang PAS ini terus bergerak mengikut landasan Islam yang telah diwarisi sejak dari zaman junjungan besar kita Nabi Muhammad s.a.w.
Kerana kita gerakan Islam, berjuang atas nama Islam dan Islam itu milik Allah, maka segala detail dan sudut gerak laku dan tindak kerja kita perlulah sentiasa menepati dan selari dengan apa yang telah digariskan oleh Allah dan RasulNya. Panduan tertinggi kita sudah pasti hanyalah al-Quran dan Sunnah selain ijmak dan qias.
Itulah yang membezakan gerakan Islam dengan mana-mana gerakan, organisasi, badan atau parti lain. Dan kita memilih untuk terus berada dalam PAS kerana kita yakin akan janji Allah dan RasulNya, kita sama ada menempuh kejayaan dalam hidup kita atau kita syahid berjuang atau generasi yang mendatang yang bakal menjulang kemenangan itu, apa pun Islam tetap berjaya selagi degupan jantung perjuangan ini terus berdegup, nafas perjuangan ini terus berhembus, yang penting adalah redha Allah SWT.
The true teaching of Islam just like mentioned in the article above :
2nd para: Panduan tertinggi kita sudah pasti hanyalah “al-Quran dan Sunnah selain ijmak dan qias.”
All muslim around the world practise the same. Don’t fear Islam because Islam is not a fearful religion. To all none muslim friends out there, if u have any things that you don’t quite understand about Islam u can always ask you muslim friends or neighbours or you can visit this website.
http://www.whyislam.org/
alqudz9, This is a statement by Zaid Ibrahim the ex minister who just resigned and from KB as quoted in the star.
In Kuala Lumpur, former de facto Law Minister Datuk Zaid Ibrahim said he felt sorry for Raja Petra, adding that Malaysia “needs more people like him”.
“Instead of detaining him, we should encourage more people to speak out. If he has done wrong, then charge him,” he said.
He added that freedom of speech and expression were important values in society.
Yes we should have more minister like him. if PR takes over. On another note, all of us should pray for the safety of malaysian and other hostages kidnapped by Somali pirates. Seems like the government has not done enough as they are preconcern with protecting their positions in the country and putting people under ISA akin to the pirates detaining fellows malaysian.
Now do u know why, its good to have allies such as the USA so that their firepower would wipe these pirates from the earth.
Glad to also know that u have agreed that :
“Nowadays its very hard to see true teaching of Islam being practised by muslims. In Malaysia you may go Kelantan, Perlis, Kedah to observed. You may also go to China to the province of Yunan, Henan, Xinjiang, Gansu, and Ningxia where they are muslims that preach and practice Islam since Tang Dynasty.”
Based on what u said, there are very few true muslims in this world. Maybe u should ponder the reasons why these muslims do not practised the “true teaching” of Islam and why they lashes out via violence as recently as a few days ago.
Hi Alqudz9,
Panduan tertinggi kita sudah pasti hanyalah “al-Quran dan Sunnah selain ijmak dan qias.”
This is the typical hadithist point of view, common in Malaysia and most of the sunni world.
This is NOT the quranic view! Far more people are aware of the teachings of the quran that most muslims would care to imagine. They know how to read the quran and don’t need prompters who try to set parameters for the Reading.
Islam (and Christianity) could not survive in an open society, as admitted by the mufti of Perak. It can only thrive under fear and intimidation to a gullible crowd needing social assurance in a controlled imperialist environment.
Today Iran passes an anti apostasy law, guaranteeing death for apostasy. Islam has collapsed in Pakistan where 10% of the population are drug addicts and 15% of the population suffer some kind of serious mental disorders. This was an admission by their own state medical body.
There is no place for superstition in today’s world. Thus both religions are in its death throes the world over since the mid-sixties.
Tun Tan Siew Sin, Presiden MCA dalam akhbar tempatan bertajuk “Tun Tan Answers Critics on Special Privileges” dalam ucapan pada 30 April 1969.
“The Malays, through UMNO, were generous enough to relax the citizenship laws of this country to such an extent that within 12 months of independence, 90 percent of the non-Malays had become citizens whereas before independence, 90 percent were still non-citizens after nearly 100 years of colonial rule in the Malay States. In return for this major concession, the MCA and the MIC agreed to continue the policy of preserving the special position of the Malays while at the same time upholding the legitimate interests of other communities.”
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Dalam ucapannya bertajuk “Menjawab Kritikan Mengenai keistimewaan Orang Melayu”, yang dilaporkan akhbar pada 30 April 1969, Presiden MCA, Tun Tan Siew Sin berkata; Orang Melayu menerusi UMNO bermurah hati melonggarkan syarat-syarat dalam undang-undang Negara ini sehinggakan dalam masa 12 bulan selepas kemerdekaan, 90 peratus penduduk bukan Melayu telah menjadi warganegara, berbanding keadaan sebelum merdeka di mana 90 peratus daripada mereka masih bukan diiktirafkan sebagai rakyat setelah hampir 100 tahun hidup di bawah pemerintahan penjajah di negeri-negeri Melayu. Dan sebagai membalas kemurahan hati Orang Melayu, MCA dan MIC bersetuju meneruskan dasar memelihara dan menghormati kedudukan istimewa Orang Melayu dan sekaligus mempertahankan kepentingan-kepentingan sah masyarakat kaum lain.
Sumber : Tan Sri Haji Khalid Awang Osman, Malaysia – An Anthology, Vantage Press, New York, tanpa tarikh, halaman 38-39.
Ucapan YB Tun Tan Sambathan, Presiden MIC merangkap Menteri Kerja Raya, Pos dan Telekom di Dewan Rakyat pada 01 Jun 1965.
Now, in 1955 we won the elections with a great majority. Then wen ontained freedom in two years time. During this period, we had to discuss citizenship and various other things. Now, what did the Malays do – since we are speaking on racial lines – what did the Malay leadership do? They had 88 percent the had the 88 percent of the electorate still with them. What did they do with the citizenship?
If we look around in Asia and East Asia, particularly, you will find that my race the Indian race, is not welcome in Ceylon, is not welcome in Burma. Look at my brother Chinese race, it is not welcome in Thailand, In Vietnam, In Cambodia, In all the other areas. What help do they get for citizenship in all these territories? In Burma, as we know, Indians have been send packing, in Ceylon they refused them citizenship and in Burma it is likewise. I know it, you know it. And yet in Malayawhat happened? Here, we found that the Malay leadership said, “We shall take them into ourselves as brothers, we shall give them full opportunity to live in this country, we shall give them every opportunity to become citizens”. And so, in 1957, for the whole year, we waived language qualification, and tens of thousands of Indians, Chinese, Ceylonese and others became citizens…
As I said, it has been my great good fortune to have been born in this country. Where else can you find a more charitable, a more polite, a more decent race than the Malay race? Where else can you get such politically decent treatment for any immigrant race? Where alse in the history of the world? I ask you. These are the facts. Who are you to safeguard us? I am 10 percent majority race here. But I am happy here”.
Terjemahannya:
Pada 01 Jun 1965, Tun Sambathan merangkap Menteri Kerja Raya, Pos dan Telekom dalam ucapannya berkata,
“Pada tahun 1955 kita telah memenangi pilihan raya dengan majority yang tinggi selanjutnya mendapat kemerdekaan dua tahun kemudian. Dalam jangka masa itu kita terpaksa berbincang dan menangani pelbagai perkara termasuk kewarganegaraan. Persoalannya di sini, apakah yang dilakukan oleh Orang Melayu memandangkan kita bercakap menyentuh perkauman apakah yang dilakukan oleh pemimpin-pemimpin Melayu? Mereka mempunyai 88 peratus daripada pengundi menyokong mereka. Apakah yang mereka putuskan mengenai isu kewargenagaraan?
Jika kita lihat di Asia dan Asia Timur, kita akan mendapati kaum India tidak akan diterima di Ceylon dan juga tidak diterima di Burma. Dan kita lihat kepada saudara kita kaum Cina, mereka tidak diterima di Thailand, Vietnam, kembola, dan di Negara-negara lain. Dan apakah bantuan berhubung kewargenagaraan yang mereka perolehi di semua wilayah tersebut? Di Burma, seperti yang kita semua sedia maklum, kaum India telah diusir keluar, di Ceylon mereka tidak diberikan taraf warganegara seperti juga di Burma. Saya tahu dan juga anda tahu. Dan dalam pada itu apa yang sedang berlaku di Malaya? Di sini kita mendapati pemimpin Melayu berkata, “kita akan menerima mereka sebagai saudara, kita akan berikan mereka sepenuh peluang untuk meneruskan kehidupan di negara ini, kita akan beri mereka setiap peluang untuk menjadi warganegara. Dan seterusnya pada tahun 1957, dengan tidak mengambil kira kebolehan berbahasa (Melayu), ribuan orang India, Cina dan Ceylon menjadi warganegara”.
Seperti yang saya nyatakan, saya amat bernasib baik kerana dilahirkan di Negara ini. Di manakah anda boleh jumpa bangsa yang lebih prihatin, bersopan-santun, dan tertib selain daripada Bangsa Melayu. Di manakah anda boleh mendapat layanan politik yang baik untuk kaum pendatang? Di manakah dalam sejarah dunia? Saya bertanya kepada anda. Ini adalah fakta. Siapakah anda untuk menjaga keselamatan kami? Saya adalah kalangan 10 peratus kaum minority di sini. Tetapi saya amat gembira di sini”.
Sumber : Tan Sri Haji Khalid Awang Osman, Malaysia – An Anthology, Vantage Press, New York, tanpa tarikh, halaman 60.
Hi Temenggong,
[This is the typical hadithist point of view, common in Malaysia and most of the sunni world.
This is NOT the quranic view! Far more people are aware of the teachings of the quran that most muslims would care to imagine. They know how to read the quran and don’t need prompters who try to set parameters for the Reading.]
Al-Quran is in Arabic. Do you study Arabic? Are you an Arab?
Arab language can be translated wrongly if you are not the expert in it. Reading is one thing, interpreting is another thing, interpreting need Hadith to be accurate. Maybe you shoud check what does Hadith means first.
As-Sunnah is as much important as Al-Quran. Go ahead and ask from Tuan Guru Nik Aziz or Tuan Guru Hj Hadi or any muslim scholars. They will give the same answer.
Now they are so many people like RPK who interpret the Quran out of context. Blindly assaulting and downgrading his own religion. He might have forgotten WHO created him and for what purpose his being born into this world.
Why some muslims does not practice true teaching of Quran nowadays?
Remember the story of Crusades? During the Crusades France King Louis IX he himself fought but later caught and surrender. In prison he manage to write a letter to France saying “The muslim can never be defeated even if this Crusade extended 100years more, their faith is unbreakable, they fought bravely not for gold, not for names, not for title, not for anything in this world but for Allah and Rasul, this make them a martyr.
Louis IX himself mentioned in order to weaken the muslim, there need to be a change of strategy and you know what is the strategy? In this age you can see it everywhere, through the media. They weaken the muslims by showing the lifestyle in the West is more fun and secular. Religion only in the mosque but outside you are free to do what ever you want, television program full of propaganda to mock Islam, to separate religion and life, Mustafa Kamal Attaturk is one of the person that claimed he is a muslim yet he brought down the Ottoman Empire and spread contradicting and false teaching of Islam and the West want to create a lot of this kind of person among muslim community.
Don’t believe it? Please if you have friends in PAS go and ask them.
In life some matters are meant to change through times some other matters are not, it will remains as it is.
Hi heheeheee,
I agree with you. We must be grateful to live in this country.